Postby Watchman555 » 13 Apr 2008, 17:02
Shalom Everyone~
I ran across this verse this morning and I thought I would research it a little bit. So I will share here. I would like to focus on this next verse and look at its significance and its relation to when the day begins.
KJV
Deu 21:23 His body H5038 shall not H3808 remain all night H3885 upon H5921 the tree, H6086 but H3588 thou shalt in any wise bury H6912 H6912 him that H1931 day; H3117 (for H3588 he that is hanged H8518 is accursed H7045 of Elohim;) H430 that (H853) thy land H127 be notH3808 defiled, H2930 which H834 Yahuah H3068 thy Elohim H430 giveth H5414 thee for an inheritance. H5159
ISR
23 “Let his body not remain overnight on the tree, for you shall certainly bury him the same day – for he who is hanged is accursed of Elohim – so that you do not defile the land which Yahuah your Elohim is giving you as an inheritance.
Specifically we will take a look at Strong’s # 3885, remain all night.
Strong’s # 3885 - lûn lîyn
loon, leen
A primitive root; to stop (usually over night); by implication to stay permanently; hence (in a bad sense) to be obstinate (especially in words, to complain): - abide (all night), continue, dwell, endure, grudge, be left, lie all night, (cause to) lodge (all night, in, -ing, this night), (make to) murmur, remain, tarry (all night, that night).
According to this definition “to remain all night” is to include the night. The Scripture does not say that the body must be taken down and buried before night comes, but it is saying that it may not remain all night. We can also see in the above verse that you shall certainly bury him the same day. The word for “same/that day” is:
Strong’s # 1931 hû' hîy'
hoo, he
The second form is the feminine beyond the Pentateuch; a primitive word, the third person pronoun singular, he (she or it); only expressed when emphatic or without a verb; also (intensively) self, or (especially with the article) the same; sometimes (as demonstrative) this or that; occasionally (instead of copula) as or are: - he, as for her, him (-self), it, the same, she (herself), such, that (. . . it), these, they, this, those, which (is), who.
Strong’s # 3117 yôm
yome
From an unused root meaning to be hot; a day (as the warm hours), whether literally (from sunrise to sunset, or from one sunset to the next), or figuratively (a space of time defined by an associated term), (often used adverbially): - age, + always, + chronicles, continually (-ance), daily, ([birth-], each, to) day, (now a, two) days (agone), + elder, X end, + evening, + (for) ever (-lasting, -more), X full, life, as (so) long as (. . . live), (even) now, + old, + outlived, + perpetually, presently, + remaineth, X required, season, X since, space, then, (process of) time, + as at other times, + in trouble, weather, (as) when, (a, the, within a) while (that), X whole (+ age), (full) year (-ly), + younger.
So we can see by definition that the “same” or “that day” would mean the same 24 hour period in which the person was hung on the tree. In Yahuchanon we find:
KJV
Joh 19:31 The G3588 Jews G2453 therefore, G3767 because G1893 it was G2258 the preparation, G3904 that G2443 the G3588 bodies G4983 should not G3361 remain G3306 upon G1909 the G3588 cross G4716 on G1722 the G3588 sabbath day, G4521 (for G1063 that G1565 sabbath G4521 day G2250 was G2258 an high day,) G3173 besought G2065 Pilate G4091 that G2443 their G846 legs G4628 might be broken, G2608 and G2532 that they might be taken away. G142
ISR
31 Therefore, since it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the stake on the Sabbath – for that Sabbath was a high one – the Yehudim asked Pilate to have their legs broken, and that they be taken away.
We can see that this is not exactly what the Torah says. I personally don’t think that they would have hanged anyone on the tree on the Sabbath day. But as we can see, the Jews felt it necessary that the bodies came down from the trees because the bodies should not remain upon the stake on the Sabbath. But as we can see, the law requires that the bodies should not remain all night upon the tree and also be buried the same day. So the question comes to mind, how is it possible to impale someone in the daylight hours and not remain all night and buried the same day? In other words, if the day begins in the evening and one is hung during the daylight hours when evening comes the beginning of the next day (?), how can they remain not all night and be buried the same day?
These next verses should clarify to not remain on the tree all night – Notice remain is H3885 which means “all night, that night”
KJV
Exo 23:18 Thou shalt not H3808 offer H2076 the blood H1818 of my sacrifice H2077 with H5921 leavened bread; H2557 neither H3808 shall the fat H2459 of my sacrifice H2282 remain H3885 until H5704 the morning. H1242
ISR
18“Do not offer the blood of My slaughtering with leavened bread, and the fat of My offering shall not remain until morning.
KJV
Exo 34:25 Thou shalt not H3808 offer H7819 the blood H1818 of my sacrifice H2077 with H5921 leaven; H2557 neither H3808 shall the sacrifice H2077 of the feast H2282 of the passover H6453 be left H3885 unto the morning. H1242
ISR
25“Do not offer the blood of My slaughtering with leaven, and do not let the slaughtering of the Festival of the Passover remain until morning.
KJV
Deu 16:4 And there shall be no H3808 leavened bread H7603 seen H7200 with thee in all H3605 thy coast H1366 seven H7651 days; H3117 neither H3808 shall there any thing of H4480 the flesh, H1320 which H834 [/size ]thou sacrificedst [size=9] H2076 the first H7223 day H3117 at even, H6153 remain all night H3885 until the morning. H1242
ISR
4“And no leaven should be seen with you in all your border for seven days, neither should any of the meat which you slaughter in the evening on the first day stay all night until morning.
Now lets take a look at some other Scriptures:
KJV
Gen 32:13 And he lodged H3885 there H8033 that same H1931 night; H3915 and took H3947 of H4480 that which came H935 to his hand H3027 a present H4503 for Esau H6215 his brother; H251
ISR
13And he spent the night there, and took what came to his hand as a present for Esaw his brother –
Notice here “that same H1931 night H3915”.
Strong’s # 3915 ayil lêyl layelâh
lah'-yil, lale, lah'-yel-aw
From the same as H3883; properly a twist (away of the light), that is, night; figuratively adversity: - ([mid-]) night (season).
KJV
1Sa 30:17 And David H1732 smote H5221 them from the twilight H4480 H5399 even unto H5704 the evening H6153 of the next day: H4283 and there escaped H4422 not H3808 a man H376 of them, save H3588 H518 four H702 hundred H3967 young H5288 men, H376 which H834 rode H7392 upon H5921 camels, H1581 and fled. H5127
ISR
17 And Dawid smote them from twilight until the evening of the next day. And none of them escaped, except four hundred young men who rode on camels and fled.
Strong’s # 4283 mochŏrâth mochŏrâthâm
mokh-or-awth', mokh-or-aw-thawm'
Feminine from the same as H4279; the morrow or (adverbially) tomorrow: - morrow, next day.
KJV
Num 11:32 And the people H5971 stood up H6965 all H3605 that H1931 day, H3117 and all H3605 that night, H3915 and all H3605 the next H4283 day, H3117 and they gathered H622 (H853) the quails: H7958 he that gathered least H4591 gathered H622 ten H6235 homers: H2563 and they spread them all abroad H7849 H7849 for themselves round about H5439 the camp. H4264
ISR
32 And the people were up all that day, and all that night, and all the next day, and gathered the quail. He who has least gathered ten Homers. And they spread them out for themselves all around the camp.
KJV
Gen 17:21 But my covenant H1285 will I establish H6965 with H854 Isaac, H3327 which H834 Sarah H8283 shall bear H3205 unto thee at this H2088 set time H4150 in the next H312 year. H8141
ISR
21 “But My covenant I establish with Yits’aq, whom Sarah is to bear to you at this set time next year.”
Strong’s # 312 'achêr
akh-air'
From H309; properly hinder; generally next, other, etc.: - (an-) other (man), following, next, strange.
I wanted to put this verses in to show that there are other words instead of “that same” that could have been used, and that would be “the next” as in “he spent the next night there”. Again – if the day begins in the evening the night following that day would be considered the next night. So we do see there absolutely is another word that could have been used.
Other examples:
KJV
Jon 4:7 But Elohim H430 prepared H4487 a worm [size=9] H8438 when the morning H7837 rose H5927 the next day, H4283 and it smote H5221 (H853) the gourd H7021 that it withered. H3001
ISR
7 But as morning dawned the next day Elohim appointed a worm which attacked the plant so that it withered.
Notice, when the morning rose the next day. Notice, it does not say, when morning rose that day. See, in this verse should they not have used the word H1931 – the same ? day? Because truly, if the day begins in the evening the next morning is a continuation of that same day.
Here again in Exodus 12:8 the used “in that” H2088 “night” H3915, when they could have used
KJV
Exo 12:8 And they shall eat H398 (H853) the flesh H1320 in that H2088 night, H3915 roast H6748 with fire, H784 and unleavened bread; H4682 and with H5921 bitter H4844 herbs they shall eat H398 it.
IISR
8 ‘And they shall eat the flesh on that night, roasted in fire – with unleavened bread and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
Strong’s # 2088 zeh
zeh
A primitive word; the masculine demonstrative pronoun, this or that: - he, X hence, X here, it (-self), X now, X of him, the one . . . the other, X than the other, (X out of) the (self) same, such (an one) that, these, this (hath, man), on this side . . . on that side, X thus, very, which. Compare H2063, H2090, H2097, H2098.
KJV
Gen 19:34 And it came to pass H1961 on the morrow,H4480 H4283 that the firstborn H1067 said H559 unto H413 the younger, H6810 Behold, H2005 I lay H7901 yesternight H570 with H854 my father: H1 let us make him drink H8248 wine H3196 this night H3915 also; H1571 and go thou in, H935 and lie H7901 with H5973 him, that we may preserve H2421 seed H2233 of our father. H4480 H1
ISR
34 And it came to be on the next day that the first-born said to the younger, “See, I lay with my father last night. Let us make him drink wine tonight as well, and you go in and lie with him, so that we keep the seed of our father.”
Strong’s # 570 'emesh
eh'-mesh
Time past, that is, yesterday or last night: - former time, yesterday (-night).
First of all, it “came to pass on the next day” which means the previous day had ended - ? the younger said – behold I lay “yesternight” which means yesterday’s night, the previous day’s night - ? she continues “let us make him drink wine this night which means this day’s night - ?
KJV
Deu 21:23 His body H5038 shall not H3808 remain all night H3885 upon H5921 the tree, H6086 but H3588 thou shalt in any wise bury H6912 H6912 him that H1931 day; H3117 (for H3588 he that is hanged H8518 is accursed H7045 of Elohim;) H430 that (H853) thy land H127 be notH3808 defiled, H2930 which H834 Yahuah H3068 thy Elohim H430 giveth H5414 thee for an inheritance. H5159
ISR
23 “Let his body not remain overnight on the tree, for you shall certainly bury him the same day – for he who is hanged is accursed of Elohim – so that you do not defile the land which Yahuah your Elohim is giving you as an inheritance.
So again, here’s the quandary. If the day begins in the evening and to be obedient to this law, if one was hung on a tree during the daylight portion they would have to be removed from the tree and buried before evening (the next day) because the verse specifically says “you shall certainly bury him the same day”. Also, if one was hung on a tree after evening, the beginning of the next day, he would not be allowed to remain on the tree all night, yet he must be buried in the same day, but you could not get to the daylight portion because the verse specifically says “not to let his body remain overnight on the tree and you shall certainly bury him the same day”. That seems kind of strange, because if evening begins the day and he is on the tree at night, when morning comes you would still be in the same day.
Another thought, if one would suggest that this verse actually means one cannot remain on the tree during the night or has to be taken down and buried before evening (the beginning of the next day), consider this next verse:
KJV
Mat 27:45 Now G1161 from G575 the sixth G1623 hour G5610 there was G1096 darkness G4655 over G1909 all G3956 the G3588 land G1093 unto G2193 the ninth G1766 hour. G5610
ISR
And from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land, until the ninth hour.
I agree, it does not say it was night over all the land or earth. Yet we read in Genesis 1:5:
Gen. 1:5
5 And Elohim called the light ‘day’ and the darkness He called ‘night.’ And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, the first day.
Both the darkness in Matt. 27:45 and the darkness in Genesis 1:5 are the same words used in the Greek, according to the Septuagint.
Amos 8:9
9 “And it shall be in that day,” declares the Master Yahuah, “that I shall cause the sun to go down at noon, and shall darken the earth on a day of brightness,
Lam. 3:22-23:
22 The kindnesses of Yahuah! For we have not been consumed, For His compassions have not ended. 23 They are new every morning, Great is Your trustworthiness.
Anyway, just a little something to ponder,
~Greg
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