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No, i believe it was 2 different "3rd days", starting from 2 different points.Watchman555 wrote: Luke 24:21
21 “We, however, were expecting that it was He who was going to redeem Yisra’el. But besides all this, today is the third day since these matters took place.
Would you say this is not the same third day as mentioned in Matt. 16:21?
For Lk.24:21 i start from the setting of the watch the evening of Abib 15: 1st day after that was the 16th, 2nd day was the 17th, 3rd day was the 18th.Matt. 16: 21:
21 From that time Yahusha began to show to His taught ones that it was necessary for Him to go to Yerushalayim, and to suffer much from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and to be raised again the third day.
And also could you tell at what point began the count to the third day for both Luke 24:21 and Matt. 16: 21?
No, i believe it was 2 different "3rd days", starting from 2 different points.
For Lk.24:21 i start from the setting of the watch the evening of Abib 15: 1st day after that was the 16th, 2nd day was the 17th, 3rd day was the 18th.
For mt.16:21 i start from the burial on the evening of the 14th: 1st day after that was the 15th, 2nd day was the 16th, 3rd day was the 17th.
In both cases, the 14th was the 4th day of the week, and the 18th was the 1st day of the week.
My answer is that it wasn't a parable; it was a plain prediction of Yahshua's resurrection after a specific period of time, using what was no doubt a commonly understood phrase - "heart of the earth". Since most here don't seem to understand what that means, that's why i let Jonah explain it; and he explains it as "Sheol" = the "Grave".Notice this sign was given to a wicked and adulterous generation and that wicked and adulterous generation took the parable as being in the grave three days and three nights; which is obvious because they set a watch. My thing is why would we apply the exact same understanding to the three days and three nights as the wicked and adulterous generation did?
Hi Matthew, I'm only replying, because i respect you and don't want to be rude and just ignore your post (since i was addressed).ErichMatthewJanzen wrote:The word "since" does not necessitate that the counting begins the day after the crucifixion. It is more logical and consistent to count the day of the crucifixion. Just as if I were to say that I've been working on this project since Saturday. Would that mean that I began working on the project on Sunday? I don't believe so. It would mean that I'd begun the project on Saturday.
Sorry, Matthew, but it appears that you don't know the meaning of the word "SINCE". It means "AFTER", NOT "including".
My answer is that it wasn't a parable; it was a plain prediction of Yahshua's resurrection after a specific period of time, using what was no doubt a commonly understood phrase - "heart of the earth". Since most here don't seem to understand what that means, that's why i let Jonah explain it; and he explains it as "sheol" = the "grave".
How does the heart of the earth represent the grave?
Sorry, Matthew, but it appears that you don't know the meaning of the word "SINCE". It means "AFTER", NOT "including".
Luke 24:19-21:
19 And He said to them, "What? And they said to Him, "Concerning Yahusha of Natsareth, who was a Prophet mighty in deed and word before Elohim and all the people, 20 and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to be condemned to death, and impaled Him.
This is the last thing spoken of in that sequence of events. Therefore, we must start the count to get to the third day after "Impaled Him". Now, it does not say "Since He died"?, �since He was taken off the stakE", �since His body was prepared"?, "Since His body was put in the tomb�, and certainly not "Since they set the watch". The day that they impaled Him was the 14th and He died on the 14th. So wouldn't it be correct in saying their count started from the time after they impaled him (the 14th)? Which still does not leave enough time for Messiah to be in the grave for three days " three nights, or 72 hours.
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