Hi Greg, I just spent an hour working on my response, then hit the Backspace key, and it wiped everything out, so i'm having to start over. That's computers for ya.
Watchman555 wrote:chuckbaldwin wrote:I use this fact to "allow" (not "prove") that it's no problem for the New Moon Days to fall anywhere within the weekly cycle.
Then how do you explain:
For the New Moon Offerings there is no provision for it to fall on a Sabbath,
Boy, Greg, i really had to think on this one, and i really hate to think.
I had to read through the requirements for the Sabbath & New Moons, and here's what i found, put in list form for easy comparison:
Numbers 28:9-10: And on the Sabbath day1. two lambs a year old, perfect ones,
2. two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour as a grain offering,
[Note that this is 1/10 ephah for each lamb - see below.]
3. mixed with oil,
4. with its drink offering,
5. the burnt offering for every Sabbath,
6.
besides the continual burnt offering with its drink offering. For my purpose here, i'm only listing the New Moon offerings that correspond to the Sabbath offerings.
Numbers 28:11-15: And on the beginnings of your months1. seven lambs a year old, perfect ones;
2. one-tenth of an ephah of fine flour,
3. mixed with oil, as a grain offering for each lamb
4. And their drink offering ... one-fourth of a hin for a lamb.
5. This is the burnt offering for each month throughout the months of the year
6.
besides the continual burnt offering and its drink offering. If you'll compare the 2 lists, you'll find that the offerings for the Sabbath are completely contained/included in the offerings for the New Moon. So whey they made the New Moon sacrifices, they automatically included all the Sabbath requirements.
I don't know if my answer is correct, but it makes sense to me, and that's what u get for making me think.
chuckbaldwin wrote:Also, the Jubilee year was mentioned in the previous post. I lean toward the Jubilee cycle being 49 years, NOT 50 years, with each Jubilee year being the 1st year of the following cycle. The reason being that Abraham lived "3 jubilees & 4 weeks of years, 175 years" (Jub. 23:7). (3x49)+(4x7)=147+28=175, whereas (3x50)+(4x7)=150+28=178, and we know that the 175 agrees with Scripture.
A millennium is 1,000 years, Messiah is coming back to rule 1,000 years, 50 x 20 = 1,000. Or 20 jubilees of 50 years each.
The math is OK, but there's no Scripture that explicitly says that 20 jubilees is 1000 years.
chuckbaldwin wrote:All the time-periods in the Book of Jubilees are based on the 49-year cycle.
Now your quote from up above states that in the "Book of Jubilees" the jubilee are based on a 49-year cycle. See, this is a major discrepancy on what I read in my Scriptures, which we have quoted above that says the jubilee is the 50th year.
That's true, but no discrepancy. For comparison, Pentecost is the "50th day", but is also the 1st day of a new week.
To tell you the truth Chuck, concerning the "Book of Jubilees" that was found at Qumran, from our studies we have found this book to be somewhat less than accurate, when compared to what we find in our Scriptures. Personally, I would have to put this "Book of Jubilees" on par with the Talmud. Not to say that there was not an inspired Book of Jubilees. Another case in point:
Jubilees 2:9
The Lord appointed the sun as a great sign above the earth for days, sabbaths, months, festivals, years, sabbaths of years, jubilees, and all times of the years.
The Book of Jubilees, James C. Vanderkam
Compared to Genesis 1:14 -
Genesis 1:14:
And Elohim said, "Let lights come to be in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and appointed times, and for days and years.
"1 Enoch simply presents the two calendars and juxtaposes them; Jubilees advocates the solar and condemns the lunar system. "
Calendars in the Dead Sea Scrolls: Measuring Time, James C. Vanderkam, page 32
I think that Jubilees is referring to the "creation calendar", when the moon was in sync with the sun, and the day started at dawn, and the year (by tradition) started in the fall. This was all changed by the "exodus calendar", in my understanding. However, by the time of Noah (Ch.6), the moon already seems to have gotten off track (due to the flood & related events?). I haven't yet figured out the information in Enoch.[quote][color=darkblue]Well Chuck, maybe you could help me out on this, how do you explain these major differences? Such as the Book of Jubilees