[align=center] Babylonian Story of Creation [/align]
Then came the ordering of the universe anew. Having made a covering for the heavens with half the body of the defeated Dragon of Chaos, Merodach set the Abyss, the abode of Nudimmud, in front, and made a corresponding edifice above--the heavens--where he founded stations for the gods Anu, Bel, and Ae. Stations for the great gods in the likeness of constellations, together with what is regarded as the Zodiac, were his next work. He then designated the year, setting three constellations for each month, and made a station for Nibiru-- Merodach's own star--as the overseer of all the lights in the firmament. He then caused the new moon, Nannaru, to shine, and made him the ruler of the night, indicating his phases, one of which was on the seventh day, and the other, a /Å¡abattu/, or day of rest, in the middle of the month. Directions with regard to the moon's movements seem to follow, but the record is mutilated, and their real nature consequently doubtful. With regard to other works which were performed we have no information, as a gap prevents their being ascertained. Something, however, seems to have been done with Merodach's net-- probably it was placed in the heavens as a constellation, as was his bow, to which several names were given. Later on, the winds were bound and assigned to their places, but the account of the arrangement of other things is mutilated and obscure, though it can be recognised that the details in this place were of considerable interest.
Euphrates & Tigris Valleys Mesopotamia
(Written lang. 3800 B.C.)
First ----- Second ------ Third ----- Fourth ----- Fifth ----- Sixth ----- Sa-ba-tu (Sabbath)
The table above includes some of the oldest languages known to man. One of these, the Babylonian language, was in use hundreds of years before the Hebrew race was founded by Abraham. That language designated the seventh day of the week as "sa-ba-tu," meaning rest day -- another indisputable proof that the Bible "Sabbath" was not, and is not, exclusively Jewish.
Very few realize that the word "Sabbath" and the concept of resting from work on the seventh day of the week (Saturday) is common to most of the ancient and modern languages of the world. This is evidence totally independent of the Scriptures that confirms the Biblical teaching that God's seventh day Sabbath predates Judaism. The concept of a Saturday holy day of rest was understood, accepted, and practiced by virtually every culture from Babylon through modern times.
I. He.(i.e. Marduk) made the stations for the great gods
2. The stars, their images, as the stars of the Zodiac,' he fixed
3. He ordained the year and into sections he divided it ;
4. For the twelve months he fixed three stars.
5. After he had [ . . . ] the days of the year [ . . . ] images
6. He founded the station of Nibir to determine their bounds
7. That none might err or go astray,
8. He set the station of Bel and Ea along with him.
9. He opened great gates on both sides,
10. He made strong the bolt on the left and on the right.
11. In the midst thereof he fixed the zenith ;
12. The Moon-god he caused to shine forth, the night he entrusted to him
13. He appointed him, a being of the night, to determine the days; Interesting (gk)
14. Every month without ceasing with the crown he covered(?) him, saying) :
15. "At the beginning of the month, when thou shinest upon the land,
16. "Thou commandest the horns to determine six days,
17. "And on the seventh day to [divide] the crown.
18. "On the fourteenth day thou shalt stand opposite, the half [...].
19. "When the Sun-god on the foundation of heaven [...] thee,
20. "The [...] thou shalt cause to ..., and thou shalt make his [...].
21. "[...] ... unto the path of the Sun-god shalt thou cause to draw nigh,
22. "[And on the ... day] thou shalt stand opposite, and the Sun-god shall ... [...]
23. "[...] to traverse her way.
24. "[...] thou shalt cause to draw nigh, and thou shalt judge the right.
25. "[...] to destroy
26. "[...] me.
"To determine six days, agrees well with 1. I 3, where Marduk is described as appointing the Moon-god a-na ud-du-u u-me, (( to determine the days"?; moreover, the phrase is appropriately followed in 1. 17 by the statement of the Moon-god's duty on the seventh day.
One sign is wanting. Possibly read zttu. “Perhaps read arba”.
You know, it often wonders me if the authors you refer to in support of the weekly lunar cycle were not in fact speaking of the feast months, those months in which specific days and weeks were determined by the moon. IE, passover, Feast of Tabernacles, etc.
I'm sure you'll post some long dissertation in reply to this, but I guess I'm just asking how you can be so sure this was a general application, and not a discussion specifically directed towards the months with the high sabbaths
kickme wrote:wasn't opposition, it was a simple open ended question/probe
and as far as reading it all, don't forget in the multitude of words, there is error
chuckbaldwin wrote:Greetings Kickme,
I like that proverb and the verses that support it. I'll keep them in mind for future use. One of my "pet peeves" is lengty verbose "proofs" which, after you read them, you don't really know what the point was.
If a point that should be simple takes a mountain of rhetoric to explain, it sends up a "red flag", and automatically makes me suspicious.
kickme wrote:BroArnold, please realise I'm not singling you out to pick on you or critisize you, that's not my intent at all. I fault and am quite critical of myself for what I post. I know that I'm in no way perfect, nor is my theology accurate. I have changed many beliefs in the last few years because error was pointed out either through scripture or by caring people showing me things I was blind to.
I do find some of the stuff you've posted quite interesting, yet some of it is so lengthly it really is hard for me to see what the point you were trying to convey was. Not just you, actually, but anyone who makes long complex points. Somehow I just don't see Scripture being so complex. I have read some articles on eliyah.com that leave me scratching my head as to how the author actually came to the conclusion they did using the portions they did to make the point they were trying to make. Sort of makes me suspect that they had a foregone conclusion, and went scratching for anything to support that conclusion.
Seems that's not the way it should be.
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