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chuckbaldwin wrote:This question is mainly for Arnold, and just occurred to me.
As i understand it, you believe that "EREB" or "EVENING" always refers to 'dark' or NIGHT. I think you also believe that the "EVENING SACRIFICE" is at 3pm.
How is this possible?
Hi Arnold,BrotherArnold wrote:Shalom Brother Chuck, I believe EVENING originally carried the definition of dark according to Genesis etc. and it always ends a day and as time went on, other terms to describe time were developed in order to be more specific, such as noon, at the going down of the sun, sunrise, sun set, twilight, between the evenings, etc. I believe the EVENING SACRIFICE is referring to BETWEEN the evenings/darks, same as the between the evenings sacrifice of the Passover even though it does not always say BETWEEN THE EVENINGS, it is understood because of the verses that do say it.chuckbaldwin wrote:As i understand it, you believe that "EREB" or "EVENING" always refers to 'dark' or NIGHT. I think you also believe that the "EVENING SACRIFICE" is at 3pm. How is this possible?
chuckbaldwin wrote:Hi Arnold,BrotherArnold wrote:Shalom Brother Chuck, I believe EVENING originally carried the definition of dark according to Genesis etc. and it always ends a day and as time went on, other terms to describe time were developed in order to be more specific, such as noon, at the going down of the sun, sunrise, sun set, twilight, between the evenings, etc. I believe the EVENING SACRIFICE is referring to BETWEEN the evenings/darks, same as the between the evenings sacrifice of the Passover even though it does not always say BETWEEN THE EVENINGS, it is understood because of the verses that do say it.chuckbaldwin wrote:As i understand it, you believe that "EREB" or "EVENING" always refers to 'dark' or NIGHT. I think you also believe that the "EVENING SACRIFICE" is at 3pm. How is this possible?
I thought i replied to this earlier; i guess i "Previewed" it and forgot to "submit" it. I've lost several posts because of that.
Anyway, i appreciate your reply, but it raises a question. If "BTE" means "between the 'darks'", then it simply means "daylight", or ANY TIME during the daylight hours. So i have to wonder, IF you're correct, why YHWH would have to invent such a cryptic expression, when he could've simply said "during the daytime"?
Also, Num.28:4 says that one lamb was offered in the morning, and the 2nd was offered "BTE", thus distinguishing "morning" and "BTE" as 2 distinctly separate times. But according to your definition, "BTE" can include "morning", so that kinda throws a monkey-wrench on your definition.
The only scripture i have found that shows when BTE is, is the "quail story" in Ex.16. If you recall, the quail arrived "at even", and were eaten "BTE". This had to be AFTER the Sabbath was over (because of having to cook them), but BEFORE the manna came the next morning, which absolutely excludes "BTE" from being during the daylight hours.
Hi Arnold, I'm not talking about your definition of "evening"; i'm talking about you changing your definition of "BETWEEN the evenings" or Bin Ha Arbayim. I already know your definition of "evening" is all messed up, but for the purpose of this thread, I'M TRYING TO WORK WITH YOUR DEFINITION OF "EVENING", and figure out how you use it to define "Bin Ha Arbayim".BrotherArnold wrote:I have not changed the definition of evening and have no scriptural right to do so. Evening is, has, and always will be dark.
Hi Arnold,BrotherArnold wrote:RESPONSE; it would be ambiguous and that is why it says things like BETWEEN THE EVENINGS or at evening AT THE GOING DOWN OF THE SUN and in another place it says BETWEEN THE EVENINGS and both places are referring to the Passover sacrifice.
Since you have already admitted it is ambiguous, i'm glad to see you include yourself among those "with very little understanding of the calendar". And thank you for "understanding that i don't understand". I receive the complement, and send it back to you, and i don't hold it against you either.I know it seems ambiguous to those with very little understanding of the calendar and I do not hold that against you, I understand that you do not understand.
Greetings Arnold,BrotherArnold wrote:... it says ... at evening AT THE GOING DOWN OF THE SUN ... referring to the Passover sacrifice.
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