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Hi Cindy,cindy wrote:From what I read Yahusha walked the earth 40 days and then he told his followers to "tarry in Jerusalem until the Holy Spirit came".
Most people assume this was 10 days later for the Grain Pentecost.
I can say emphatically that is WRONG!
You can believe that. I think the evidence points to the New Wine Pentecost.
Hi Cindy,cindy wrote:This is not easy to digest, but it's much easier than what we went through tossing out Xmas and Easter and living the Feasts.
Golly, this is a cake walk, frankly.
And I'm grateful I have had the opportunity to pass on what I've discovered.
cindy wrote:Hello All,
Acts 1:5 is not a "witness" to me.
It's not specific enough for me to change my beliefs/worship one way or the other.
But, going over the chronology in Exodus and lining up the "3000" with Acts 2 and seeing my timeline later outlined in the
Dead Sea Scrolls written 2000+ years ago (some even older than the Septuagint),
now that is a "witness"!
From my witnesses the
New Grain Pentecost is in Sivan
New Wine Pentecost in AV
and New Oil Pentecost in late Elul.
I have given my "witnesses" in earlier posts.
No one has given any witnesses for alternatives other than manmade traditions and Acts 1:5 or no witnesses meaning that that what I have presented is just "made up" by the Essenes.
Brother Arnold has a timeline that adds 50 days to mine of which I asked recently to see if he thinks the Sivan date is moot and how can there be an atonement for oil after Tabernacles?
So, I'm not confident in that timeline.
I'm in this for the truth of the matter, not to be the smartest whip in the room.
This is not easy to digest, but it's much easier than what we went through tossing out Xmas and Easter and living the Feasts.
Golly, this is a cake walk, frankly.
And I'm grateful I have had the opportunity to pass on what I've discovered.
Cindy
cindy wrote:From what I read Yahusha walked the earth 40 days and then he told his followers to "tarry in Jerusalem until the Holy Spirit came".
Most people assume this was 10 days later for the Grain Pentecost.
I can say emphatically that is WRONG!
You can believe that. I think the evidence points to the New Wine Pentecost.
My point from Romans 3 is that the "Jew" mentioned was not the Jew I had originally thought, which was the Jew(s) who put together the books in the Septuagint. It was the Jew(s) who penned the DSS and included the books of Enoch and Jubilees and other writings unknown in the Septuagint that were given the "oracles of YHWH".
Now the DSS have everything that the OT does except Esther. So it's not like we have been missing the whole boat.
But, if you read the DSS you know that there is much more than the OT.
I believe the reason Shaul/Paul went to Damascus was to apprehend a large group of followers of The Way who were "Essenes" that broke from Qumran BCE and were followers originally of Menahem the Essene and Hillel Pharisees who left after the massacre in 20 BCE.
It was definitely a teaching center because he spent three years there before even going back to Jerusalem.
I'm saying there is evidence of a connection. It is not a new idea, but the New Wine Pentecost I have not seen connected to Acts 2 anywhere in DSS commentaries.
Anyone else?
Cindy
This new paradigm requires that we choose between the Scriptures (as we know them), and the Dead Sea Scrolls. I can't see where we have the knowledge to be able to do that. Plus, if the DSS supercede Scripture, it means that NOBODY, from the 2nd century until the DSS were discovered, had any basis for a right relationship with YHWH.
Why would anyone reject the idea that His return to render judgment against those for breaking his law be at the same time or season that the righteous law was given/at the summer harvest?
If the Angels, or Mighty ones, are the reapers in Joel, Revelations, and Matthew, this proves a FOURTH month wheat harvest because the grapes are present at harvest time. Leviticus 23:16 should be interpreted to number 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath complete.
Isaiah 16:5-6 says, and it shall be as when the harvest men gathereth the CORN, and reapeth the ears with the arms; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim. Yet GLEANING GRAPES shall be left in it,… .
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