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chuckbaldwin wrote:

BrotherArnold wrote:Can anyone believes that conjunction starts the new moon and evening or morning starts the day, honestly say that somewhere on earth, it will not be the TRUE first day of the month????

Hi Arnold,

Yes, "somewhere on earth". Since "the Law will go forth from Jerusalem", i believe the best choice for a dateline would be Jerusalem (with the entire "holy land" defined in Jerusalem's time zone). That way, the new month, Sabbaths & Feast days would all start at Jerusalem, and the rest of the world would follow.

Since Jerusalem is not yet the world's capital, man has put the dateline where it would impact the fewest people. Someone living across the street from you wouldn't be keeping Feasts a day ahead or behind you, and you wouldn't be reading tomorrow's newpaper because the newspaper company was a mile or 2 east of your "dateline" and you were to the west. And THAT's 1 of those "absolutes" you're always inventing. Perhaps it's because all your beliefs are "absolutes" (in your mind), is why it's so difficult to reason together.

I know you're aware of these things, because it was all debated on EliYah's forum. In the past you have either merely disclaimed them, or claimed they didn't matter.

BrotherArnold wrote:Even If the Dateline Was Placed at Jerusalem and Someone Traveled East from Jerusalem and counting one through seven over and over again, at what point would they have to give up their HOLY CYCLE and back up one day, to get on Jerusalem time? And what about the seven-day cycle Sabbaths they kept before they backed up one day, were they not holy?

The truth of the matter is he sets the dateline with the rebuilding of the moon/new moon and the rebuilding of the day/new day and where ever this occurs on earth each month, is nature's first-day of the month and that is an absolute.

Nothing anyone can do to change this fact, it will always be the TRUE first day of the month on earth. And when Brother Chuck cannot even argue against it, it makes it double conclusive.

chuckbaldwin wrote:THERE'S NO TRUTH IN THAT MATTER, AND THE ONLY ABSOLUTE IS THAT THIS LUNAR DATELINE FALSE TEACHING IS A LIE OF SATAN THE DEVIL!!!

chuckbaldwin wrote:

BrotherArnold wrote:Even If the Dateline Was Placed at Jerusalem and Someone Traveled East from Jerusalem and counting one through seven over and over again, at what point would they have to give up their HOLY CYCLE and back up one day, to get on Jerusalem time? And what about the seven-day cycle Sabbaths they kept before they backed up one day, were they not holy?

Assume you were in Jerusalem on a Sabbath day. As soon as you crossed Israel's border, it would become "yesterday", the 6th day of the week, and a few hours later, when sunset (or whatever) arrived, it would be Sabbath again. THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE!!! WHETHER THE DATELINE IS FIXED OR PUT THERE FOR ONLY THIS MONTH BY YOUR SATAN-INSPIRED THEORY!!!

The truth of the matter is he sets the dateline with the rebuilding of the moon/new moon and the rebuilding of the day/new day and where ever this occurs on earth each month, is nature's first-day of the month and that is an absolute.

THERE'S NO TRUTH IN THAT MATTER, AND THE ONLY ABSOLUTE IS THAT THIS LUNAR DATELINE FALSE TEACHING IS A LIE OF SATAN THE DEVIL!!!

Nothing anyone can do to change this fact, it will always be the TRUE first day of the month on earth. And when Brother Chuck cannot even argue against it, it makes it double conclusive.

THAT JUST SHOWS THAT YOU DIDN'T READ OR UNDERSTAND ANY OF MY EXPLANATIONS ON THE OTHER FORUM. ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT OCCUR WITH YOUR IDIOTIC SATAN-INSPIRED DATELINE, YOU JUST SWEEP UNDER THE RUG AND PRETEND LIKE THEY DON'T EXIST.

AS LONG AS THIS FORUM IS BEING INUNDATED WITH THIS DIABOLICAL TRASH, I THINK I'LL JUST GET OUT FOR A WHILE. Someone can email me when Arnold comes to his senses.

chuckbaldwin wrote:

BrotherArnold wrote:Even If the Dateline Was Placed at Jerusalem and Someone Traveled East from Jerusalem and counting one through seven over and over again, at what point would they have to give up their HOLY CYCLE and back up one day, to get on Jerusalem time? And what about the seven-day cycle Sabbaths they kept before they backed up one day, were they not holy?

Chuck writes, Assume you were in Jerusalem on a Sabbath day. As soon as you crossed Israel's border, it would become "yesterday", the 6th day of the week, and a few hours later, when sunset (or whatever) arrived, it would be Sabbath again. THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE!!! WHETHER THE DATELINE IS FIXED OR PUT THERE FOR ONLY THIS MONTH BY YOUR SATAN-INSPIRED THEORY!!!



RESPONSE; I agree with the absolute BUT don't see how THE DAY can be HOLY on one side of the border and not on the other side of the border under the same sunrise and sunset? This is what happens with man-made datelines. With lunar Sabbaths the problem goes away because both sides of the border the day will either be holy or a workday. This does not sound like Satan's doings, but YHWH'S.

THIS IS NOT THEORY BUT FACT!

The truth of the matter is he sets the dateline with the rebuilding of the moon/new moon and the rebuilding of the day/new day and where ever this occurs on earth each month, is nature's first-day of the month and that is an absolute.

Chuck writes,

THERE'S NO TRUTH IN THAT MATTER, AND THE ONLY ABSOLUTE IS THAT THIS LUNAR DATELINE FALSE TEACHING IS A LIE OF SATAN THE DEVIL!!!

RESPONSE; Nothing anyone can do to change this fact, it will always be the TRUE first day of the month on earth. And when Brother Chuck cannot even argue against it, it makes it double conclusive.

Chuck writes,

"THAT JUST SHOWS THAT YOU DIDN'T READ OR UNDERSTAND ANY OF MY EXPLANATIONS ON THE OTHER FORUM. ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT OCCUR WITH YOUR IDIOTIC SATAN-INSPIRED DATELINE, YOU JUST SWEEP UNDER THE RUG AND PRETEND LIKE THEY DON'T EXIST."

RESPONSE; Brother Chuck the dateline that I propose is not mine it is nature's and our creator ordained it. Are you saying that you can argue against the fact that the new moon begins somewhere on earth at the same time the day begins and therefore it is the TRUE first day of the month and will travel around the earth?

You Wrote, ;

"AS LONG AS THIS FORUM IS BEING INUNDATED WITH THIS DIABOLICAL TRASH, I THINK I'LL JUST GET OUT FOR A WHILE. Someone can email me when Arnold comes to his senses."

RESPONSE; you might perceive it as trash but I perceive it as NATURE WORKING and the instructions of YHWH. You should not let it upset you. All I am saying is that nature starts a dateline that comes around the earth and man starts one that comes around the earth. People generally get upset when they cannot defend their doctrine. I don't say this is your case, perhaps I am missing something, please be patient with me if I am.

Brother Arnold

chuckbaldwin wrote:Brother Arnold,

Before i leave the forum, i will apologize to you for the less than brotherly language used in my last post. I have editted out the worst of it. I know you are a sincere, loving, & generous person who totally desires to serve YHWH; and i love you as a Brother.

So long for now.