chuckbaldwin wrote:Hi Arnold,BrotherArnold wrote:Can anyone believes that conjunction starts the new moon and evening or morning starts the day, honestly say that somewhere on earth, it will not be the TRUE first day of the month????
Yes, "somewhere on earth". Since "the Law will go forth from Jerusalem", i believe the best choice for a dateline would be Jerusalem (with the entire "holy land" defined in Jerusalem's time zone). That way, the new month, Sabbaths & Feast days would all start at Jerusalem, and the rest of the world would follow.
Since Jerusalem is not yet the world's capital, man has put the dateline where it would impact the fewest people. Someone living across the street from you wouldn't be keeping Feasts a day ahead or behind you, and you wouldn't be reading tomorrow's newpaper because the newspaper company was a mile or 2 east of your "dateline" and you were to the west. And THAT's 1 of those "absolutes" you're always inventing. Perhaps it's because all your beliefs are "absolutes" (in your mind), is why it's so difficult to reason together.
I know you're aware of these things, because it was all debated on EliYah's forum. In the past you have either merely disclaimed them, or claimed they didn't matter.
RESPONSE; the Law That Will Go Forth from Jerusalem Teaches What a New Moon Is and When a Day Starts. It Does Not Say the Month Will Go Forth from Jerusalem Each Time.
Even If the Dateline Was Placed at Jerusalem and Someone Traveled East from Jerusalem and counting one through seven over and over again, at what point would they have to give up their HOLY CYCLE and back up one day, to get on Jerusalem time? And what about the seven-day cycle Sabbaths they kept before they backed up one day, were they not holy?
The truth of the matter is he sets the dateline with the rebuilding of the moon/new moon and the rebuilding of the day/new day and where ever this occurs on earth each month, is nature's first-day of the month and that is an absolute. Nothing anyone can do to change this fact, it will always be the TRUE first day of the month on earth. And when Brother Chuck cannot even argue against it, it makes it double conclusive.