I've been told that i might be a good intermediary, although i've never done it. Also, since i'm basically "neutral" on the lunar Sabbath subject, i might be less likely to favor one person over the other.Luneee wrote:This brother and I have an issue that needs to be resolved in a forum that Tom does not control as judge, jury, and executioner.
If anyone has the courage to assist in this, I would appreciate it.
Based on ONLY the information given, i would say that the FIRST thing to do according to Mt.18:15, would be to write him/her and explain the point that they missed. THEN, if there still needs to be further resolution, according to v16, call for a hearing with 1 or 2 more (which is what you're asking for now). Have you done the 1st step, or did i miss something? "Missing the point" means that they didn't understand something, which in this case shouldn't be too hard to explain. Like you said, it's NOT about "lunar Sabbaths" - now that WOULD be difficult.Luneee wrote:Chuck, my reason for posting the respondee's message is to show that they missed the point entirely. This is not an argument about Lunar Sabbath. This is an issue of Tom falsely accusing me of trying to lead others to Lunar Sabbath, absent facts to support that accusation.
I am confused on why I would write the person back that missed the point? Is there a way I can convince them to see the real issue?
If it does come to that, i'm afraid the logistics might prove too difficult, getting 3-4 people to travel to some distant city to meet. The "meeting" would of necessity have to be via email.This would require an open hearing, in a public setting, with several (3 or more) men who would be willing to judge facts, and not opinions.
That makes sense, and he probably would ignore it.And, it would require an invitation to Tom to attend, which I believe would be ignored.
JMSchattke wrote:Well, Luneee/LunarModule/Jay Vincent, Answer these questions:
1) did you apologize for being disruptive last week?
2) did you actually tell anyone about lunar sabbaths in chat or PM?
Honestly, it's Tom's sandbox, he pays for it. If you want your own sandbox, pay for it yourself.
JMSchattke wrote:Honestly, it's Tom's sandbox, he pays for it. If you want your own sandbox, pay for it yourself.
If I have a place to meet, and someone comes in and is rude and obnoxious, I have the responsibility to eject them in order to keep things civil, polite and calm. If I ask someone to leave, and they do not, no matter what their reasons they are then trespassing.
Luneee, I still haven't received anything like a private request to explain my actions. When I do, I shall gladly explain, apologize, or whatever else I feel is appropriate. I shall not address your concerns in public as a first step.
Since right now, all we see is your side of the story about you being banned, well, of course you'll seem right.
First, WHO are the 2 parties involved, i.e. who is "this brother". Or are there 3 parties - it appears that JMSchattke is involved somehow. Or is JMS the "brother" you mentioned?This brother and I have an issue that needs to be resolved in a forum that Tom does not control as judge, jury, and executioner.
Watchman555 wrote:After our incident, I put together what I believe is a fair and Scriptural way to deal with this type of problem. We had it up on our web site for a while and there really wasn't any interest in this area. Because I believe some would consider it a hot-topic. We have it around here somewhere saved on a disc, we will try to find it and e-mail it to you.
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