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2008 Sabbatical Year

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2008 Sabbatical Year

Postby cindy » 23 Apr 2008, 15:50

Shalom All,

I'm under the impression that this is a Sabbatical year.
I might be wrong but, too much has been going on in my faith walk to think otherwise.

Has anyone else been having similar thoughts?

Cindy

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Postby BrotherArnold » 26 Apr 2008, 17:41

Shalom Sister Cindy,

Glad to see people like you who searches for truth. The following might help because they recorded an important event and if you can check back, you might find your answer, I have been meaning to but can't seem to get around to it. The following shows a pinpointed Sabbatical year and a pinpointed Sabbath on the 8th and if the Sabbath is right, the sabbatical year seems to be also because of the destruction of the temple, it seems they knew both at that time. Please let me know so I can keep it at that time until I find out different. I done it last year but not because I knew anything.


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Postby BrotherArnold » 26 Apr 2008, 18:20

It seems that 586 B.C. was when Jerusalem was destroyed, perhaps we can count the years up to today and divide by 7 and figure in the Jubilee years at the end of every 49 years. It can be done but hard to get someone to help.

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Postby BrotherArnold » 26 Apr 2008, 20:23

After more thought, I don't think this alone will help, withought knowing when the year of Jubilees was.

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Postby cindy » 26 Apr 2008, 20:49

I found yet another article on JSTOR

http://www.jstor.org/pss/619620

This article states the a Sabbatical year of 749 CE.
That would make 2008/2009 or 2009/2010 a Sabbatical.
I'm not sure if the sabbatical starts on Tishri 1 2008 and goes thru the growing season of 2009 or starts Tishri 1 2009.

Anyway 2009-749 =1260 which is 18 Sabbaticals since the earthquake in Jerusalem.

Too, Isaiah 61 which Yahuahua proclaimed at the start of His ministry
makes me think this year 2008/2009 was a Sabbatical year. This would make His ministry only 1.5 years.

This is something that needs to be researched more.

Anyone else?

Cindy

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Postby BrotherArnold » 26 Apr 2008, 22:04

Here is Adam Clarh's notes on 2 Kings 25

Nebuchadnezzar besieges Jerusalem; it is taken, after having been sorely reduced by famine, etc.; and Zedekiah, endeavoring to make his escape, is made prisoner, his sons slain before his eyes; then, his eyes being put out, he is put in chains and carried to Babylon, vv. 1-7. Nebuzar-adan burns the temple, breaks down the walls of Jerusalem, and carries away the people captives, leaving only a few to till the ground, vv. 8-12. He takes away all the brass, and all the vessels of the temple, vv. 13-17. Several of the chief men and nobles found in the city, he brings to Nebuchadnezzar at Riblah, who puts them all to death, vv. 18-21. Nebuchadnezzar makes Gedaliah governor over the poor people that were left, against whom Ishmael rises, and slays him, and others with him; on which the people in general, fearing the resentment of the Chaldeans, flee to Egypt, vv. 22-26. Evil-merodach, king of Babylon, releases Jehoiachin out of prison, treats him kindly, and makes him his friend, vv. 27-30.

Notes on Chapter 25



2 Kings 25:1



In the ninth year of his reign—Zedekiah, having revolted against the Chaldeans, Nebuchadnezzar, wearied with his treachery, and the bad faith of the Jews, determined the total subversion of the Jewish state. Having assembled a numerous army, he entered Judea on the tenth day of the tenth month of the ninth year of the reign of Zedekiah; this, according to the computation of Archbishop Usher, was on Thursday, January 30, A.M. 3414, which was a sabbatical year: whereon the men of Jerusalem hearing that the Chaldean army was approaching, proclaimed liberty to their servants; see Jeremiah 34:8-10, according to the law, Exodus 21:2; Deuteronomy 15:1, 2, 12: for Nebuchadnezzar, marching with his army against Zedekiah, having wasted all the country, and taken their strong holds, except Lachish, Azekah, and Jerusalem, came against the latter with all his forces. See Jeremiah 34:1-7. On the very day, as the same author computes, the siege and utter destruction of Jerusalem were revealed to Ezekiel the prophet, then in Chaldea, under the type of a seething pot; and his wife died in the evening, and he was charged not to mourn for her, because of the extraordinary calamity that had fallen upon the land. See Ezekiel 24:1, 2, etc.

Jeremiah, having predicted the same calamities, Jeremiah 34:1-7, was by the command of Zedekiah shut up in prison, Jeremiah 32:1-16.

Pharaoh Hophra, or Vaphris, hearing how Zedekiah was pressed, and fearing for the safety of his own dominions should the Chaldeans succeed against Jerusalem, determined to succor Zedekiah. Finding this, the Chaldeans raised the siege of Jerusalem, and went to meet the Egyptian army, which they defeated and put to flight. Joseph. Antiq., lib. 10, cap. 10. In the interim the Jews, thinking their danger was passed, reclaimed their servants, and put them again under the yoke; Jeremiah 34:8, etc.



2 Kings 25:2-4



And the city was besieged, etc.—Nebuchadnezzar, having routed the Egyptian army, returned to Jerusalem, and besieged it so closely that, being reduced by famine, and a breach made in the wall, the Chaldeans entered it on the ninth day of the fourth month, (Wednesday, July 27), Zedekiah and many others endeavoring to make their escape by night.



2 Kings 25:5



The army of the Chaldeans pursued—Zedekiah was taken, and brought captive to Riblah in Syria, where Nebuchadnezzar then lay, who ordered his sons to be slain before his face, and then put out his eyes; and having loaded him with chains, sent him to Babylon, (see Jeremiah 39:4, 7; 52:7, 11), thus fulfilling the prophetic declarations, that his eyes should see the eyes of the king of Babylon, Jeremiah 32:4; 34:3; but Babylon he should not see, though he was to die there; Ezekiel 12:13.



2 Kings 25:8



In the fifth month—On the seventh day of the fifth month, (answering to Wednesday, Aug. 24), Nebuzar-adan made his entry into the city; and having spent two days in making provision, on the tenth day of the same month, (Saturday, Aug. 27), he set fire to the temple and the king’s palace, and the houses of the nobility, and burnt them to the ground; Jeremiah 52:13, compared with Jeremiah 39:8. Thus the temple was destroyed in the eleventh year of Zedekiah, the nineteenth of Nebuchadnezzar, the first of the XLVIIIth Olympiad, in the one hundred and sixtieth current year of the era of Nabonassar, four hundred and twenty-four years three months and eight days from the time in which Solomon laid its foundation stone.



2 Kings 25:10



Brake down the walls—In the same fifth month, Jeremiah 1:3, the walls of Jerusalem being razed to the ground, all that were left in the city, and all that had fled over formerly to Nebuchadnezzar, and all the common people of the city, with all the king’s treasures, those of the nobles, and the whole furniture of the temple, did Nebuzar-adan carry off to Babylon. See Jeremiah 39:8, 9; 52:14, 23. And thus was Judah carried away out of her own land, four hundred and sixty-eight years after David began to reign over it; from the division of the ten tribes three hundred and eighty-eight years; and from the destruction of the kingdom of Israel, one hundred and thirty-four years; A.M. 3416, and before Christ five hundred and ninety. And thus ends what is called the fifth age of the world. See Usher’s Annals.



2 Kings 25:18



Seraiah the chief priest—Zephaniah—The person who is here called the second priest was what the Jews call sagan, a sort of deputy, who performed the functions of the high priest when he was prevented by any infirmity from attending the temple service. See on 2 Kings 23:4 (note).



2 Kings 25:19



And five men of them that were in the king’s presence—These were principal counselors, and confidential officers.

In Jeremiah 52:25, it is said he took seven men who were near the king’s person, and the same number is found in the Arabic in this place; and the Chaldee has no less than fifty men; but in Jeremiah this, as well as all the rest of the versions, reads seven. Probably they were no more than five at first, or, perhaps Jeremiah reckoned with the five the officer that was set over the men of war, and the principal scribe of the host mentioned here, as two with the five; and thus made seven in the whole.



2 Kings 25:21



The king of Babylon smote them—He had, no doubt, found that these had counselled Zedekiah to revolt.



2 Kings 25:22



Made Gedaliah—ruler—This was no regal dignity; he was only a sort of hind or overseer, appointed to regulate the husbandmen.



2 Kings 25:23



To Mizpah—This is said to have been situated on the east side of the river Jordan, and most contiguous to Babylon, and therefore the most proper for the residence of Gedaliah, because nearest to the place from which he was to receive his instructions. But there were several places of this name, and we do not exactly know where this was situated.



2 Kings 25:24



Gedaliah sware to them—He pledged himself in the most solemn manner to encourage and protect them.



2 Kings 25:25



Smote Gedaliah—This was at an entertainment which Gedaliah had made for them; see Jeremiah 41:1, etc. He was not content with this murder, but slew fourscore more, who were coming with offerings to the temple, and took several as prisoners, among whom were some of the king’s daughters; and set off to go to the Ammonites: but Johanan, the son of Careah, hearing of these outrages, raised a number of men, and pursued Ishmael upon which Ishmael’s prisoners immediately turned and joined Johanan; so that he, and eight of his accomplices, with difficulty escaped to the Ammonites. See Jeremiah 41:1, etc. Baalis, king of the Ammonites, had sent Ishmael to murder Gedaliah; and of this he was informed by Johanan, who offered to prevent it, by taking away the life of this murderer. But Gedaliah could not believe that he harbored such foul designs, and therefore took no precaution to save his life. See Jeremiah 40:13-16.



2 Kings 25:27



And it came to pass—Nebuchadnezzar was just now dead; and Evil-merodach, his son, succeeded to the kingdom in the thirty-seventh year of the captivity of Jehoiachin: and on the seven and twentieth day [Jeremiah says five and twentieth] of the twelfth month of that year, (Tuesday, April 15, A.M. 3442), he brought the long captivated Jewish king out of prison; treated him kindly; and ever after, during his life, reckoned him among the king’s friends. This is particularly related in the four last verses of the book of Jeremiah.



2 Kings 25:30



A continual allowance given him of the king—He lived in a regal style, and had his court even in the city of Babylon, being supplied with every requisite by the munificence and friendship of the king. In about two years after this, Evil-merodach was slain in a conspiracy; and it is supposed that Jehoiachin, then about fifty-eight years of age, fell with his friend and protector. Thus terminates the catastrophe of the Jewish kings, people, and state; the consequence of unheard-of rebellions and provocations against the Majesty of heaven.
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Postby wstruse » 27 Apr 2008, 21:55

Cindy,

Here is an Excel file showing every available Scritpural and Historical reference ( that I am aware) to a Sabbath and Jubilee year. Every reference is noted. If you hold your mouse over the reference the full text will pop up for you to read. Based on the balance of evidence I believe 2007 was a Sabbath year. The file is almost 3 MB so it may take some time to load. The chronology on this file shows over 6000 years of Biblical history all the way to the Creation of Adam ( Y.C. = Year of Adams Creation )

http://www.countdowntothemessiah.com/0-6030Chronology.xls

I hope this helps. Warm Regards,
Wstruse

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Postby cindy » 29 Apr 2008, 03:07

Thank you Wstruse.

I went over the spreadsheet and found it very impressive.
I know of another breakdown of events that give a Jubilee just one year later 2029, but they note + or - 1 year.

http://www.creation-answers.com/chronoj.htm

I find historic calendar issues tough to get a grip on so I appreciate those of you who have the brain power to calc all this.

2008 is out the window.

Thank you,
Cindy

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Postby chuckbaldwin » 04 May 2008, 16:49

Hi Cindy,

This is just my educated guess, based on the crucifixion being in 30 AD. That would make Yahshua's Jubilee proclamation (Lk.4:18) occur in the fall of 26 AD, and the preceding Sabbatical year would have been 25-26 AD.

The nearest multiple of 7 to where we are now is 1981 (7*283).

25 + 1981 = 2006, so i'm guessing the last Sabbatical year was 2006-7.
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Postby cindy » 05 May 2008, 16:11

Chuck,

I think we all are in the ball park.

I can see some very convincing detail for all the dates that would put us between 2006 and 2009.

Read that article I posted on the other thread. Four consecutive lunar eclipses all on Holy Days in 2014/2015. If these years are the Sabbatical, which I could almost bet my ....., then that would put the Sabbatical now at 2007/2008, 2021/2022, and 2028/2029.

This too would make sense seeing there will be four consecutive solar partial eclipses in 2028/2029 all on NEW MOON days followed by a total lunar eclipse right afterward.

What a partial solar eclipse looks like on a NEW MOON I can't imagine. How could anyone see it if THEY WERE NOT LOOKING FOR IT?

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEcat/SEdecade2021.html

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phases2001.html

http://www.abdicate.net/cal.aspx

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Postby chuckbaldwin » 06 May 2008, 04:56

Hi Cindy,

As i mentioned on the other thread, SOLAR eclipses are ALWAYS associated with the New Moons; they can't occur any other time. The Conjunction, which is what a solar eclipse is, DEFINES the New Moon.

Likewise, LUNAR eclipses ALWAYS occur at FULL MOON, which is the 14th-15th of the biblical months. I will admit that 4 total eclipses in a row are a bit unusual.
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Postby cindy » 06 May 2008, 17:37

Yes, I know, but either it means something or it doesn't.

"let them be for Signs and for Seasons".

If there is no significance in these events and we consider them just "natural" phenomenon that happens here and there then we should stop looking for "signs" from the luminaries because there is no alternative to eclipses unless something like UFO's started hovering about. Am I missing something?

Are they for signs or not?
Anybody have any alternatives for "signs".

I'm thinking we have patterns somewhere that can help us figure more closely these "signs" and their significance.


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Postby cindy » 11 Jun 2008, 15:54

I know I have gone back and forth on the Sabbatical year.
My gut told me it was 2008.
Many "facts" told me otherwise. I put that in quotation just because we all are getting our info from sources that may be in error by a year or two.

It strikes me that all the floods this year are hitting the grain belt.

Standing water is one way to give the land a rest.

Don't ya think?

Just a thought.

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Postby chosen » 12 Jun 2008, 14:11

standing water is one way to give the land a rest, it's also one way to start a famine.

:cry:

shalom,

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Postby Chayil_Ishshah » 12 Jun 2008, 14:58

True chosen, but we're in a famine of sorts right now. Just go to any regular supermarket and try to figure what we can eat if we turn away from unclean foods and foods that are manipulated in a laboratory (GMO/GE).

I'm thankful Yahuah still blesses the land to yield even though it hasn't been Sabbathed.

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