Can you explain how those who do not believe in the virgin birth have history on their side?
Yes. There is no historical evidence or documentation anywhere prior to the time of the gospels of Matthew or Luke that Messiah was to be born of a virgin. The historical prophecies and preistly writings do not indicate this in any way.
And those who do not agree have science or the Tanak on their side?
I explained the Tanak above.
Unless you believe that the account of MattithYahu and Luke are highly tainted, the Messianic Scriptures would agree in a virgin birth.
Maybe they do, But I don't believe that the Messianic Scriptures are infallable. Nor do I believe that this story agrees with the Tanak in any way.
As far as science goes, are you saying science is on ‘your’ side because it is impossible for a virgin to conceive? If that is the case, I would have to remind you of artificial insemination because in this day and age it is scientifically possible for a virgin to be inseminated and conceiving thus being a virgin with child.
Although true, that would be totally irrelavent to 2000 plus years ago.
To say that a virgin birth is impossible is going against Yahuah’s ability to do anything. To me, it only makes more sense that she was indeed a virgin, that being undefiled, by man.
Why does it make MORE sense that a woman was pregnant without a man?
Likened to the spiritual equivalent of the 144,000 who are considered virgins themselves; does that mean they are actual virgins in a physical sense? Or does that mean that they were virgins in a spiritual sense, being undefiled by the pollutions of the religious world?
I would say the latter, but I don't se how that is relevant to Yoseph and Miriam.
I guess time will tell us on that one. I can see from my perspective of Yahuah choosing the right maiden to bring forth His Son. It seems highly unlikely he would have used a woman that had been covenanted with another man, because as we know to ratify a covenant there must be a shedding of blood and a parting. In other words, when Yisra’el walked through the two pieces –
???????? I'm not following you here. You are over my head with this.... ??????????