"The fear of יהוה is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Set-apart One is understanding"

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by principessa-yisraeliana
10 Mar 2008, 18:41
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: polygyny
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2:7 And he brought up Hadassah, that is, Esther, his uncle's daughter : for she had neither father nor mother, and the maid was fair and beautiful; whom Mordecai, when her father and mother were dead, took for his own daughter. 2:8 So it came to pass, when the king's commandment and his decree was ...
by principessa-yisraeliana
10 Mar 2008, 18:26
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: polygyny
Replies: 172
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That's a nice play on words! :) oh my...we are slipping downhill fast here, methinks! too funny. i actually didn't notice that one until you pointed it out! Anyway, my view of this topic is inclusive, not exclusive. I agree with you about the true scriptural love, and that LOVE in it's purest sense...
by principessa-yisraeliana
07 Mar 2008, 02:46
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: polygyny
Replies: 172
Views: 153703

You have to admit, it is rather humorous to think that we have two women here crying out, "We're property" and a man indignantly declaring that to be appalling, LOL! ;-) I still think that we have some areas of disagreement, like the slavery/servant/handmaiden issue and the fact that marri...
by principessa-yisraeliana
06 Mar 2008, 14:28
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: polygyny
Replies: 172
Views: 153703

Maybe we should define love: Is it infatuation that matures? Is it what most people nowdays call lust? Is it the drive inside the brings commitment to care for? Is it an emotion? Is it choice, ie a logical choice? Now, with those questions in mind: Did Ya`acob love or hate Leah? Yes, I know Scriptu...
by principessa-yisraeliana
06 Mar 2008, 14:22
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: polygyny
Replies: 172
Views: 153703

Shalom Eriq - Wow, this thread picked up steam, so for right now I'll just comment on the fact that I agree with you about the penetration point. I would like to go back to the scriptures and look at 'if a man rapes a woman but she doesn't scream' issue re that. Implied consent? Consent meaning taci...
by principessa-yisraeliana
05 Mar 2008, 22:41
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: polygyny
Replies: 172
Views: 153703

Eriq, I think that you have missed something and also I may also have not thoroughly explained my position. It's very difficult to go back and forth where things are chopped up with small comments like this. I gave some links to George Gordon's programs. There is a lot of context to what I'm saying ...
by principessa-yisraeliana
05 Mar 2008, 02:16
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: polygyny
Replies: 172
Views: 153703

[quote= Eriq] I believe that the Messiah's demonstration of love and compassion is the ultimate example to a husband of what YHWH intended in Genesis. Cheri has reduced this example to a "Tina-Turner-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it" proposition. No, I haven't...but Rebekah did not even know I...
by principessa-yisraeliana
03 Mar 2008, 14:58
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: polygyny
Replies: 172
Views: 153703

BTW, I never had any of my "property" demand rights, and dictate its position of honor or dishonor in my house. Property is usually bought and sold at the behest of the buyer and seller, and given whatever place the owner chooses. Property has no rights . Now Eric, you know that this is n...
by principessa-yisraeliana
03 Mar 2008, 11:35
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: polygyny
Replies: 172
Views: 153703

A marriage covenant/contract is all about property, and nothing else besides property in its legal essence.... That is completely horrible in essence. Eriq, I completely understand why you and the rest of our culture of this modern country would think this. Since the Civil War, Civil Rights Movemen...
by principessa-yisraeliana
03 Mar 2008, 01:40
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: polygyny
Replies: 172
Views: 153703

Now, like it or not, these folks did things differently than we do today, I'm not calling either side more or less righteous, just stating facts. Actually, I think you did a great job with the passage! I like your conclusion also, that if the law provided protection for a girl in this situation, ho...
by principessa-yisraeliana
02 Mar 2008, 17:20
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: Response to Eriq's "Virgin Birth" objections
Replies: 7
Views: 7043

There are many who say that they don't believe in the virgin birth, and that they believe that Yahshua was just a man who 'learned' obedience and, therefore, became 'qualified' to be Messiah.


Chuck, how would you respond to that line of thinking? Thanks, Cherie
by principessa-yisraeliana
02 Mar 2008, 17:17
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: How You Became A Commodity
Replies: 0
Views: 2982

How You Became A Commodity

Interesting article... :) How You Became A Commodity The Creation Of Constructive Trusts And the Solution Copyright 1997 By Ed McCabe With many thanks to Howard Griswold The 14th Amendment to the Constitution created a secondary class of citizens so the slaves could become federal citizens and be &q...
by principessa-yisraeliana
02 Mar 2008, 16:55
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: polygyny
Replies: 172
Views: 153703

I see the relevance of the Torah, but what I don't get is why you have made the Torah and marriage all about finance. First, Eriq - you and I do agree that polygyny is permissible according to Torah. I'm not trying to abrogate that doctrine. However, marriage IS 100% about property and, in the patr...
by principessa-yisraeliana
02 Mar 2008, 14:08
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: polygyny
Replies: 172
Views: 153703

kickme wrote:I have a different understanding of Ex. 21 than you do, if you care to hear it sometime, I'll elaborate. I don't think that portion is speaking of polygyny.


Sure, I'll message you.
by principessa-yisraeliana
02 Mar 2008, 10:22
Forum: Discussion Forum
Topic: polygyny
Replies: 172
Views: 153703

And, I have perceived you to be an argumentative and contentious man, not only in this thread but in others. I have absolutely based my position on the Torah. Torah commands that a man provide for his wife, and not diminish that provision if taking on #2. Torah absolutely commands that we are not nu...

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